{"id":7156,"date":"2010-11-01T18:59:17","date_gmt":"2010-11-01T23:59:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/buddymartin.net\/blog\/?p=7156"},"modified":"2020-01-10T17:18:35","modified_gmt":"2020-01-10T17:18:35","slug":"the-corinthian-dilemma-the-demise-of-a-church","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/buddymartin.org\/blog\/2010\/11\/01\/the-corinthian-dilemma-the-demise-of-a-church\/","title":{"rendered":"The Corinthian Dilemma – The Demise of a Church"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Every kind of honor and happiness was bestowed upon you, and then\u00a0was fulfilled that which is written, ‘My beloved did eat and drink, and was\u00a0enlarged and became fat, and kicked.’ Hence flowed emulation and envy,\u00a0strife and\"\" sedition, persecution and disorder, war and captivity. <\/em><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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“So the worthless rose up against the honored, those of no reputation\u00a0against such as were renowned, the foolish against the wise, the young\u00a0against those advanced in years. For this reason righteousness and peace\u00a0are now far departed from you, inasmuch as everyone abandons the fear of\u00a0God, and is become blind in his faith, etc.” <\/em>\u2013 The First Epistle of Clement to the Corinthians<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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J<\/span>ournal,<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

The purpose of this entry is to provide a bit of education on the issues that Paul had to deal with concerning the church at Corinth. It is well worth the reading. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Let’s begin with Clement. The afore quote is from a letter of Clement to the Church of Corinth. Scholars are in favor that this letter was written by the traveling companion of the apostle Paul. When Clement wrote this letter both Paul and Peter had been\u00a0martyred not too many years prior. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Paul speaks of Clement and other workers who helped him;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

[They]\u00a0have shared my struggle in the cause of the gospel, together with Clement\u00a0also and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the book of\u00a0life.” <\/span><\/em>(Phil4:3)<\/span> [Clement lived A.D. 30-100]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This letter by Clement was written either following the destruction of\u00a0Jerusalem, or just prior. It was only one of several letters written by those\u00a0who knew the apostles, that were read in the Churches. Clement along with\u00a0Barnabas, and a couple more writings, were given consideration with regard\u00a0to being placed in the New Testament canon of Scriptures. The church\u00a0historian Eusebius held Clement in high esteem. (Clement is in the 1st\u00a0volume of ANF and is found in the Alexandrian manuscripts.) <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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What were the problems at Corinth? <\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

There were so many that it would take\u00a0too much effort to try to address them all. However, there was one very\u00a0serious situation that called for special concern by the apostle Paul. It had to do with the gifts of the Spirit and in particular the gift of speaking in foreign or other languages. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\"\"There is much more to this story. The City of Corinth was less than 50 miles across the Corinthian Gulf from\u00a0Delphi. To the Greeks, Delphi was considered the center of the earth. There\u00a0was a stone set in place that was called the navel of the earth. Delphi had\u00a0the Delphic oracle, which belonged to the Earth goddess, and was\u00a0supposedly guarded by a serpent, Python. (Keep the serpent Python image\u00a0in view.)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

At the Delphi temple they practiced a pagan glossolalia or speaking in tongues, but not in any language that could be understood. This\u00a0influence of the pagan glossolalia was strongly felt not only in Corinth,\u00a0but also in the entire Grecian world. (You can study this in most encyclopedias.)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

The way the oracle worked was that a male prophet at the temple would\u00a0receive a question from an inquirer. The question could be personal, or\u00a0about government affairs, or whatever. <\/span><\/span>The inquirer would be brought into the presence of a young woman\u00a0priestess of Apollo who was said to have a “pythonic spirit.” The young woman would speak in unintelligible utterances, often fall out in a frenzy, supposedly through the spirit of Apollo in her, and the prophet would interpret the message.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

It seems that Paul\u00a0encountered this pythonic spirit at work in Philippi.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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It happened that as we were going to the place of prayer, a slave-girl having a spirit of divination [puth\u00f5na] met us, who was bringing her masters much profit by fortune-telling.\u201d<\/em> (Act 16:16 NASB) <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

The issue of gifting<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

It is important to understand that Paul never took away from their being a\u00a0gifting from God concerning speaking in other languages. The problem seems to be that certain ones who\u00a0had been to the Delphic priest were beginning to show up in the\u00a0congregation, and very likely, even some of the priests and priestesses\u00a0were entering.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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The Christians would have been considered a threat to the\u00a0Delphic oracle. In addition the Corinthian believers may have felt\u00a0like they were in competition with the Delphic oracles. This was probably why\u00a0Paul had to deal so much with the issue of speaking in tongues with the Corinthian church. You\u00a0don’t find it in any of the other churches. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

If you read the Corinthian letters with this\u00a0background in mind, it will help you appreciate some of the things Paul is\u00a0addressing. Listen carefully to the language: <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware.\u00a0You know that when you were pagans, you were led astray to the mute\u00a0idols, however you were led.”<\/em> (1Co12:1,2.)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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From this we can assume that some of the Corinthian believers had taken part in the Delphic oracles. It was the spirit of divination that\u00a0had led them astray. (Keep in view the term, ‘led
\nastray\u2019. We are going to see it again in Paul\u2019s second letter to the Corinthians. )<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Again:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the\u00a0Spirit of God says, ‘Jesus is accursed’; and no one can say, ‘Jesus is Lord,’\u00a0except by the Holy Spirit.” <\/em>(1Co12:3) <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Someone was speaking by a spiritual power that declared Jesus\u00a0was accursed. Paul’s contention was that the Holy Spirit would most\u00a0certainly not say that Jesus is accursed. There is a vast difference between Jesus being accursed and Jesus taking the curse of the Law upon Himself at the cross. But these false outbursts of prophecies were leading the people astray.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Can a person confess the wrong Jesus?<\/span> <\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

For someone to truly make\u00a0the confession that Jesus is Lord, would be an act of the Holy Spirit.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Anwk cross - Egyptian godsHowever, can someone say that Jesus is Lord and it not be of the Holy Spirit? Yes, if there is a occultic spirit involved. Paul addresses this issue in his second letter. He says it is possible to preach a Jesus who is not the Jesus of the Bible. (See the book 'The Beautiful Side of Evil by Michaelson.)<\/p><\/div>\n

Listen to Paul:<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by\u00a0his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of\u00a0devotion to Christ.”<\/em> (2Co11:3)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Remember the term \u2018led astray.\u2019 There it is again. Paul used it in both letters. In this second letter, Paul is coming even more strongly against the people being led astray. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Notice the background of being led astray is still the ‘serpent<\/span>.’ The\u00a0inference may possibly be to the pythonic spirit again. ‘Led astray’ is the Greek word\u00a0phtheiro<\/span>, which means to corrupt or spoil. The corrupting is a spiritual\u00a0deception.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

This word is used in Rev19:2, where it says,<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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He has judged the great harlot who was corrupting (phtheiro) the earth with her immorality, and\u00a0He has avenged the blood of His bondservants on her.” <\/span><\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Paul shows how this corrupting influence works. He said,<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

For if one comes\u00a0and preaches another Jesus who we have not preached, or you receive a\u00a0different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you\u00a0have not accepted you bear this beautifully”<\/em> (2Co11:4) <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

The Corinthian group was coming under the influence of the occult. There\u00a0is no other way to explain an involvement with a\u00a0different Jesus, a different spirit, and a different gospel. You may think this\u00a0is hard to do, but Church history has proven that this has always been a real\u00a0danger for believers.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Clement has more to say.<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Let’s come back to Clement’s letter which was\u00a0written after the passing of Paul and Peter. I want to share a few\u00a0notable quotes from his letter. It gives an idea of what happened to the church in Corinth, and what can happen in a church today if a spirit of occultism enters the scene. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Your schism has subverted the faith of many, has discouraged many, has\u00a0given rise to doubt in many, and has caused grief to us all. And still your\u00a0sedition continues.\u201d<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

“The height to which love exalts is unspeakable. Love unites us to God.\u00a0Love covers a multitude of sins. Love beareth all things, is long-suffering in\u00a0all things. … Love admits no schisms.\u201d<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

“All the generations from Adam even unto this day have passed away; but\u00a0those who, through the grace of God, have been made perfect in love, now\u00a0possess a place among the godly.”<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

“Through envy and jealousy, the greatest and most righteous pillars of the\u00a0Church have been persecuted and put to death. … Peter, through\u00a0unrighteous envy … Paul also obtained the reward of patient endurance,\u00a0after being seven times thrown into captivity … Thus was he removed from\u00a0the world and went into the holy place…”<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Did the Church at Corinth ever revert itself? Who knows. We do have a promise\u00a0that the Lord will not lose any that belong to Him. It is possible that the\u00a0Lord simply removed His people to a place of His choosing. But this is\u00a0speculation<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n


\n Historically speaking\u2026<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Historically there is no evidence that ‘glossais lalein’ [speaking in another language] played a\u00a0continuing role in the advance of early Christianity. There have been resurgences in this area but they almost always proved to be of the occult. Paul gives the only Scriptural explanation that we can find as to why. Some find this a difficult Scripture, but it needs to be considered. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Paul said,<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophecy,\u00a0they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if\u00a0there is knowledge, it will be done away. For we know in part and\u00a0we prophesy in part; but when the perfect comes, the partial will\u00a0be done away with.”<\/em> (1Co13:8-10) <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Paul doesn’t say when these things will happen. Some think\u00a0he is speaking of heaven. Others think he is speaking of the apostolic era.\u00a0But there is a word that Paul uses that may be the key. It doesn’t speak of\u00a0heaven or of the apostolic era perse. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

\"\"Listen carefully. Paul said, <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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But when the perfect comes, the\u00a0partial will be done away.”<\/em> (v10)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

If we stopped there, it could\u00a0easily mean heaven. But Paul continues; <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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When I was a child, I use\u00a0to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I\u00a0became a man, I did away with childish things.” <\/em>(Vs11) <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Paul is using a word here that he only uses one way. It has regard to maturity. He said,<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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But when the perfect (teleois) comes, the partial will be done away.”<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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I can’t emphasis enough the usage of this word. It is never used with regard to heaven. It means when something reaches its desired goal, or\u00a0a state of maturity.\u00a0What did Paul mean by perfect? It is possible that he had the transition of\u00a0covenants in view.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

The new covenant taking its place<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Listen to this statement in Hebrews 8:13;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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When He said, ‘a new covenant,’\u00a0He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and\u00a0growing old is ready to disappear.”<\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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The old covenant had not disappeared\u00a0as long as the temple was visible. As long as the temple sacrifices were\u00a0in place the former covenant was still visible for all to see. This was a special time in the changing of covenants. Many of the people were still thinking on an old covenant level. They did not have the spiritual maturity that would replace entirely the old. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

The temple sacrifices offered no atonement for sin. Yet a great many of the priests had received Jesus as Lord, and still involved in temple sacrifices. (Cf. Acts 6:7) <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

The book of\u00a0 Hebrews was written not long before the destruction of Jerusalem. It was\u00a0like a final warning to the Jewish people. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

The prophets testimony<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

This brings us back to the prophet’s testimony concerning the purpose of\u00a0‘glossais lalein’, that is, speaking in other languages. God speaking in Isaiah 28:11,12, said,<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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Indeed He will\u00a0speak to this (Jewish) people through stammering lips and a foreign tongue\u00a0… but they would not listen.” <\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Follow through with Isaiah 28:13;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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… they may go and stumble backward,\u00a0be broken, snared and taken captive.” <\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This is exactly what happened in 70 a.d. The temple was destroyed,\u00a0Jerusalem burned to the ground, and the people were taken captivity into the nations. In addition, there was no longer any visible evidence of the former covenant in place. The transition was over. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

What had happened? The superior covenant was fully in place. This is likely\u00a0what Paul had in mind, when he said that prophecy would be done away\u00a0with and tongues would cease. These things would be replaced by something superior, that is, a mature spiritual walk with the Lord, where each child of God is able to hear from the Lord for himself.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

And this is where believers today need to\u00a0learn to live their life on a new covenant level. When Paul speaks of\u00a0prophecy, it is likely he was speaking of a prophet sharing from the voice of God. Yet in the new covenant experience, that is not God’s best. One of\u00a0the defining marks of the new covenant is that every person hears God\u00a0personally. Jesus said,<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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My sheep know My voice, and another they will\u00a0not follow.” <\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Notice how the book of Hebrews begins;<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.”<\/em> (1:1,2) <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

God now speaks to His people through the voice of His Son. The Old Testament prophetic\"\" ministry had come\u00a0to a close. We see this on the Mount of Transfiguration. When Moses and Elijah disappeared we hear a voice from heaven, <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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This is My beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased; LISTEN TO HIM.”<\/em> <\/span>(Caps for emphasis only.)<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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Did not Jesus say that the law and the prophets were until John? <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

In the new covenant every true believer has the attending voice of\u00a0Jesus speaking into his or her life. This is one of the validating\u00a0factors that we have entered the kingdom of the beloved Son. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

In the former covenant, you had to seek out a prophet. Not so in the covenant of Christ. God spoke through the prophet, and said,<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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For all will know Me, from the least to the greatest of them. For I will be merciful to their iniquities, and I will remember their sins no more.” <\/em><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Time for a check up<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

And here is where we need to use caution. Paul did not say that\u00a0these elements of prophecy and speaking in other languages would be ‘destroyed.’ What he said was that they\u00a0would be rendered useless, or, ‘idled.’ Paul was simply telling the\u00a0Corinthians, not to get over-focused on these particular gifts. There is no question that the Lord can speak to us through others. But to go about seeking a prophet today can do much damage to a believer’s walk with the Lord. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

I realize everyone has their own thoughts, opinions, and\u00a0experiences. But in the study of Scriptures, it is important not to let our experiences determine what we believe. We must learn to be true to the Scriptures.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Everything I have shared in this entry is for educational purposes. My advice to believers today is to remain on guard against any form of occultism. Familiar (pythonic) spirits love to enter into congregations and play off as being from the Lord.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

Here is your song for today. Please listen to it. It is titled, ‘In Christ Alone.’ <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n

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May the Lord’s blessings rest upon you and all that is yours,<\/span><\/p>\n

In Christ always,<\/span><\/p>\n

B<\/span>uddy <\/span>\t\t<\/p>\n

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